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According to a report from Business Korea, it seems the company sees more growth potential in the wearable health sector



Gear Fit Pro trademark


Simband proto




The Simband is equipped with six sensors, though its modular design means developers can add their own proprietary sensors as well. The six sensors it comes with can keep tabs on your daily steps, heart rate, blood pressure, skin temperature, and how much sweat your sweat glands are producing.



Trends, monitor and spot check
The home screen displays the time, date and shortcuts to the device's three main functions: trends, monitor and spot check. Trends is the aforementioned dashboard that displays your data over time, monitor is a real-time tracking mode when all of the band's sensors are activated and spot check allows you to quickly check your heart rate and blood pressure.


BIX angle has GEEKs very curious

It's oddly in Samsung's Gear Fit Pro trademark where they introduce "Digital Assistant" .................. Specifically for watches the trademark filings states: "Watches that communicate data to personal digital assistants,






Brian Faith in cc


Gary Mobley

Okay. I’m trying to think about the most sensitive way to ask this question. It’s been well documented that one of the Tier 1 smartphone OEMs has postponed the usual timing of their next generation flagship phone for various reasons and well documented reasons, but is that the reason for maybe the push out by a few months of this EOS S3 win for this tracker tied to this Tier 1 OEM. And do you still view the opportunity annually potentially somewhere between $2 million and $4 million a year?



well phrased question Gary. So the reason for the push out from where we thought we could have been into December of last year was really this customer going through with a fine tooth comb, the user experience that they want people to have with this watch.

This watch is not going to be like the other ones that have been shipped in the market.



So they wanted to pay particular attention to all those details with regards to the sensors and user experience and most importantly the battery life, which is what we’re enabling them to achieve longer.
Brian Faith

Bayesian analysis is real time, the probabilities were changes by this question and Brian Faith's answer to it.


One detail ; this sort of explains where all the time went on a Tier 1 wearable that could not be glimpsed Quarter after quarter. We are conditioned to conclude it got the axe....but in this case it was to raise the bar on this segment of Wearables...it also helps to remember that Wearables are considered a segment of the IoT.

It will be fun to see what parts of the Simband proto are on the Fit Pro.

One day it will just be FUN to own part of this business.

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   We have been dancing around the words "Samsung" and "Watch" so long it was almost shocking to hear one.
   
   Yes, that was a sweet moment of the cc. An Apple site has some interesting Samsung tidbits.......
   
   Samsung Files U.S. Trademarks for 'Galaxy S8' and 'Gear Fit Pro' where 'Digital Assistant' is First Introduced
   
   
   Mobile World Congress kick starts on February 27, 2017 in Barcelona. While Samsung will not be launching the Galaxy S8 at the event, the U.S. Patent Office reveals that they filed for the Galaxy S8 trademark in January 2017 as noted below. The more interesting trademark that was discovered today was one filed on January 26 for Gear Fit Pro which is the first Samsung trademark to mention 'digital assistant.'
   
   
   
   It's oddly in Samsung's Gear Fit Pro trademark where they introduce "Digital Assistant" in context with Bracelets, Watch Bands and Watches. Specifically for watches the trademark filings states: "Watches that communicate data to personal digital assistants, smart phones, tablet PCs, PDA, and personal computers through internet websites and other computer and electronic communication networks." You could view the rest of what's covered by the trademark below.
   
   
   
   Patently Apple first covered Samsung introducing their Viv / digital assistant team back in November in a report titled "Samsung Confirms AI is coming to the Galaxy S8 in Late February Courtesy of Viv." Last week we posted another Viv related report titled "Samsung's Digital Assistant for Galaxy 8 to Support 7 Languages."
   
   
   
   The AI market is important to Samsung so that they could remain competitive with Apple, Google, Amazon and Microsoft's digital assistants as well as those being worked on by Chinese smartphone vendors like Huawei working simultaneously with Amazon's Alexa and their own digital assistant for the Chinese market.
   
   
   
   Over the next ten days Patently Apple will stay on top to new trademark being filed just prior to the Barcelona trade show should they be able to provide us with more clues as to what Samsung may be introducing in the first half of 2017.
   

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   THis is new for all QUIK holders. THe GEEK sites are so interested now with the Gear FIt pro and the Bixby digital assist angle.
   
   They are more than curious.
   
   THis thing gets taken apart the day they get one and lets see whos MCU is in this thing. NXP, ST, Samsungs own....
   
   wait a minute Eos S3. WHat is this, never ever heard of it.
   
   THis watch is NOT like all the others....So Bixby may be the BIG news at MWC...and Samsung will try to show how Bix is across their platform(?) and that platform has
   a health device unlike any before and it can talk to- BiX.
   
   https://www.wareable.com/samsung/samsung-bixby-voice-assistant-release-date-3911
   
   
   Samsung's Bixby logo may have been uncovered in trademark filing
   But bigger questions still remain about AI-powered voice assistant
   
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   February 13, 2017
   By Conor Allison
   @conorallison95
   With rumours swirling in the build-up to MWC 2017, the logo for Samsung's upcoming digital assistant Bixby appears to have leaked.
   
   According to a new report from Neowin, an application filed with the European Trade Mark and Design Network houses a 'B' logo, potentially pointing towards Samsung launching the Bixby moniker alongside future devices.
   
   Read next: How Viv plans to beat Siri and Alexa in the AI assistant game
   
   And while one of those devices will be its Galaxy S8 smartphone, the assistant is also likely to see support through the company's throng of smartwatches andfitness trackers, too.
   
   The report also notes how this could be the logo for the S8 flagship, though this would appear unlikely considering the filing indicates it will involve "interactive computer software enabling exchange of information".
   
   
   
   Samsung Bixby story so far...
   With the branding to the assistant seemingly cleared up, the biggest mystery surrounding Bixby still remains what tech is actually behind it. After Samsung revealed the acquisition of Viv Labs (an AI company owned by the creators of Siri) way back in October, it appeared a foregone conclusion that the technology would be implemented into the new assistant.
   
   Recent noise indicates that Bixby will, in fact, be based on the company's existing voice command service, S Voice.
   
   And if it does happen to provide minimal input from Viv and feature the guts from the original S Voice instead, expectations may have to be tempered. After all, this was a voice companion pre-emptively tipped to be on a different level to its peers.
   
   That was also before further leaks suggested Bixby — or Kestra, depending on if you opt for the female alternative — will only initially support eight languages, which, while more than Google, pales in comparison to Siri and Cortana.
   
   Expect Bixby to make its debut during Samsung's appearance at MWC before the end of the month.
   
   So I will track alomg with BIX at MWC and listen carefully for BIX and wearables, BIX and Health.
   
   PMCW has that really great post on Data on the Apps n wearables thread. THe same thing applies to this new device. WIth MORE sensors it will have MORE data. If that data gets crunched it is possible that BIX can become a LIFE coach. THe more BIX knows the better couch he can be.
   
   Positive reinforcement is so great when you hear it. Bix juxt knowing some key bits of info with this FIt Pro allows him to become MORE than ALexa, who know none of that.
   
   THis is potentially so cool. Can Samsung use the FIT Pro to make its Digital Assistant know someone very well and advocate for them?
   
   THe few snips we have suggest they are all over this. Nice.
   

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   Let curiosity get you to reade from VIV of one yr ago,
   
   "VIV is NOT FOR sale he said last yr"////
   
   How Viv plans to beat Siri and Alexa in the AI assistant long game
   SXSW: The co-founder of Siri thinks his current project is even smarter
   
   Sunday
   March 13, 2016
   By Sophie Charara
   @sophiecharara
   AlphaGo, Google DeepMind's AI program, is now up 3-1 against 18 time world champion Go player Lee Se-dol. It lost its most recent game, in the five game challenge, but in the previous round, AlphaGo made moves that the champion human just couldn't believe.
   
   AI is here and though it's chess and now Go that are making the headlines, Dag Kittlaus, the founder of Siri, thinks his latest AI assistant can be the first one to provide us with "limitless" knowledge.
   
   The global brain
   Viv, the "global brain", still doesn't have a release date but Kittlaus, speaking to Backchannel's Steven Levy at SXSW Interactive, says that 2016 will be a big year for the Siri rival from the three year old startup which he co-founded after Apple bought Siri.
   
   Read this: First look at Sony N smart neckband at SXSW
   
   Why is Kittlaus so sure Viv can usurp Siri and Alexa and Cortana and Google Voice? Because these assistants are limited to both hardware - specific phones, wearables or smart home devices - and specific functions.
   
   Even tech companies like Apple and Amazon have only been able to focus on a limited set of features and requests that use conversational voice commands. Viv will be an open platform, available on a bunch of different devices, and it wants the world to teach Viv what we want it to know.
   
   Opening up AI
   
   
   "When the iPhone came out, there were only the basic apps," said Kittlaus. "When they opened up the App Store to over a million apps, that's when the magic happened and it changed the world.
   
   "We feel like that's exactly where we're at in AI right now. AI is a very closed system so we've been sitting in a room for three and a half years with one of the best teams that has ever been put together on this, we're building a system that is more open. It allows third parties, in a Wikipedia sort of way, to teach it whatever they want and that is going to scale the usefulness and capabilities to orders of magnitude of where it's at today."
   
   You choose how much it knows
   When Viv arrives, Kittlaus wants its logo to become a symbol so that people know you can talk and interact with that device, app or website. As it has so much hot competition already on wrists and in homes, it is focusing on things that existing AI assistants can't do - so for instance, you could even say to Viv "I'm drunk" and it would know to order you a taxi home.
   
   The key is contextual information that it learns over time but privacy is key. "It will be user focused so Viv will say I learned these seven things about you this week and it will be up to you to allow the system to use that information or change your preferences so it forgets. Everyone will have a different threshold."
   
   
   Insert the DATA BIX can learn from a device like FIT Pro into the above comment
   
   What remains to be seen is how much common sense Viv has. All natural language and AI assistant programs eventually get stuck so it will be very interesting to see how this problem will be solved.
   
   Viv isn't for sale
   Not right now, anyway. Kittlaus was pretty clear that his company has had "multiple acquisition offers" but he and his team believe that Viv is the most important work any of them will do in their careers.
   
   WHat is the Biggest news item for Samsung last yr? Not the Note, not the scandal unfolding, its this.
   
   The CEO, who wrote a dystopian novel about an out of control Siri after he left Apple, wants to see some kind of limits built into AI. That's partly because the estimates of when we could reach the point where AI programs like Viv won't need humans to teach it any more gets closer every time experts are polled.
   
   So while DeepMind concerns itself with winning the last game of the Go challenge, Kittlaus thinks that while we should be thinking about the dangers of AI sooner rather than later, the potential of Viv is worth it.
   
   So use this as a mental model of Gear FIt Pro DATA + machine learning, + BIX.
   
   PS, frustrations with $$ are understandable, but on the Tier 1 wearable use the Fit Pro as a mental model. THey have been working on this thing for 3 yrs; from 14 till today.
   It is ambitious, it will raise the bar, the combination of this device, the DATA it generates, that gets plugged into BIX...will be worth the time it took.
   
   It is slow because it really is a WHOLE lot more. THat is what the adjacent possible told me this morning. I always listen to what AdjP says.